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Latest post 08-14-2008 11:16 PM by Dave. 32 replies.
  • 05-23-2007 12:41 PM

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    Glaucoma Cure

    Has anyone tried the Glaucoma Cure from the book:
    Heal your eye problems with herbs, minerals and vitamins by Max Crarer.

    Apparently he had Glaucoma for 12 years and cured it by cutting out all caffeine and taking specific minerals etc.

    I would love to get some feedback or messages from anyone who has tried any alternatives for Glaucoma and had success.

    My father has glaucoma and medications aren't working. His eyesight is deterioating fast and we would like to try something different.

    All the best
    Diana Moore
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    http://www.bowentherapy.homestead.com

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  • 05-23-2007 12:50 PM In reply to

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    Re: Glaucoma Cure

    Gruffy sent a private reply to Diana but his reply went to a public group by mistake. In attempting to help Gruffy rectify the situation, I suggested that his reply would be helpful and that he should consider posting it publicly here. He agreed, so I am reposting his reply below. I think you will enjoy it - I did! (Gruffy, I hope you keep sharing this kind of information in the future. Thanks for your permission to repost this one.)

    Diana:

    I have not read the book. I am, though, doing the sodium acsorbate drops recommended by a so called "Dr. Wombat (pen-name, I guess)" found on the HSI (Health Sciences Institute) discussion forum. He had found the formulation while visiting a naturopathic doctor in my state (Washington) but  I've not been able to find out who that was. I'd be glad to tell you how to make them. I wonder, though if the substance is available to you in your nation.

    I cannot use any of the pharma drops. I had such allergic reactions to them that my Medical Doctor said I was having nearly daily heart arrhythmia and attacks at night. I had one I thought was heat stroke whilst cutting fire wood last summer. It put me down in the woods..later I found it was probably a heart attack. Then during the "withdrawal" from the drops, some of the side effects are listed as "hallucinations," and angina. I had both. At night I'd awaken seeing things. It was so serious that my wife and I put our guns away where I couldn't get at them duringone of these episodes. That situation ended after about 5 days. The half life of the drops was supposed to be about 2 weeks, but I've heard from others that it is more like a year. I am now free of heart problems.

    I am totally dependent upon the ascorbate drops. I am also using my conviction in the concepts of ayurvedic, so I am taking, daily, a gram of Tumeric in my tea. I am also taking, sublingually, B-12. I am using Co-enzyme Q-10 to restore my heart muscle (a side effect of beta blockers like Timolol is to cut off access by our hearts to Q-10).

    I've been a martial arts practitioner for 40 years. Now I am older, I have taken up Tai-Chi Yang, the long form. The study of qi-gong includes a stance that reportedly will heal anything in your body if you use it 1 hour per day. I believe that totally. If you are interested, here is a little vignette I produced a while back on my web-site: http://www.geocities.com/g_gruff/chi.html

    If you can get your father involved with a Tai-Chi Master in the study of Qi-gong, you will have another tool for his recovery.

    I am also extremely convicted that our glaucoma may have resulted from our diet. I'd explain if you are interested. I have researched our need to have a body PH that is alkaline. We tend to eat more acidic foods than alkaline. That causes us extreme problems with our health. You can get information on PH on the internet too. It is so very easy to get a list of acidity and check the PH with saliva and PH strips. Mine indicated I was so acidic that I was tempting death. I've changed that completely. Here is just one site on PH. You can find good food lists to download here.

    Finally, I would like to recommend two movies. One you can watch on the internet for a fee: The Secret. The Other, recently released, is creating a storm all across the nation. It is called "What the Bleep Do we Know". Both address our ability to control our bodies and environment, and both substantiate the teachings of the Bible and many other philosophies.

    I'll be glad to keep conversing with you.

    "Gruffy"

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  • 05-24-2007 1:06 AM In reply to

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    I haven't tried any of the alternative therapies, Diana, but I'm about to begin with some of the suggestions that were shared today.  I hope that you will keep in touch here so we can see if what you and your father choose and what I begin to do offers some help so we can share with others who are unable to go the conventional route.  Thanks for your emails!  MaryC

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  • 05-24-2007 1:10 AM In reply to

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    I am so sorry that there are those of us who can't use conventional therapies---it has been scary for me BUT knowing that there are others who have this same difficulty has given me such a boost today!  I have felt separate from the others on the list----kind of like I have been in the shadows and not quite a "part of".  We can all pull together and share what begins to help us and take the help you have listed here, Gruffy, and who knows, perhaps we will come up with a winning combo!  I am so grateful to have found both you and Diana's father and wish us all the best and continuing communication.  Best Regards, MaryC
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  • 05-24-2007 10:06 AM In reply to

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    Re: Glaucoma Cure

    I agree that this conversation thread has been very interesting and helpful. We are indebted to Gruffy for being flexible about sharing his personal story. When his message went through in spite of his efforts to prevent it, he was flexible enough to assume that was the way it was supposed to be. I think that is a very healthy attitude.

    For me, working on my attitude and state of consciousness is a very important area of alternative glaucoma treatment. I find Louise Hay's work interesting and compatible with my understanding of Ayurveda. Louise Hay says that every illness is a manifestion of unresolved emotional thoughts and experiences. She stated, "for every effect in our lives, there is a thought pattern that precedes and maintains it. Our consistent thinking patterns create our experiences. Therefore, by changing our thinking patterns, we can change our experiences."

    Ayurveda says that our consciousness creates our physical body. I believe the key to any glaucoma cure starts at the level of our consciousness, which gives rise to our thoughts and emotions. Certainly, thinking positive thoughts and managing our emotions is a good skill to develop. However, the level of thinking is more superficial than the level of emotions and there are levels of our being deeper than emotions. Getting in touch with the deepest levels of our consciousness and resolving imbalances at that level seems to be what is required for a glaucoma cure, in my opinion.

    I described my own glaucoma cure plan in an article on my blog called "Embrace Evolve Exceed To Overcome Glaucoma". Louise Hay mentions that glaucoma can be related to the following unresolved emotions and experiences:stony unforgiveness; pressure from longstanding hurts; overwhelmed by it all. I did some Ayurvedic-oriented physiological research and I believe that bias and extreme opinionatedness might also be issues for some people with glaucoma. I think those traits apply to me more than unforgiveness. So far I haven't found unforgiveness to be a key issue for me, although maybe that means I haven't dug deeply enough. However, I saw that one part of the brain that is pathologically involved in glaucoma is the part that is connected with bias from an Ayurveda perspective and when I asked everyone who knows me well if they thought I was biased, every single person said yes. I was quite surprised because I pride myself on not being biased, but the verdict was delivered and I realized I needed to work on the attitude/emotion of bias.

    We tend to seek solutions to our health problems in pills, potions, powders, procedures, etc. All of those things can help, but for a chronic condition like glaucoma, we have to look at deeper lifestyle factors and deeper emotional issues. When we can fundamentally change ourselves at the deepest level, we can cure our glaucoma. Change at that level -- our deepest level of consciousness which underlies our emotions -- will absolutely alter the deepest levels of our physiology.

    Scientists have been looking for specific genes that cause glaucoma. Many glaucoma patients are hoping for a genetic-level "cure" for glaucoma. What the latest scientific research is showing is that in complex diseases (such as glaucoma, AMD, etc.), the  presence of a specific genetic variant does not guarantee development of the disease  (nor does the absence of that specific variant guarantee protection).  Persons with risk genotypes can dramatically reduce risk (probably even to a level  below the general population risk) through diet and lifestyle. Science is  just seeing the tip of the iceberg so far when it comes to genetics. The interaction among factors is immense and mind-boggling. The genotypes that increase risk for glaucoma could certainly also confer benefits or advantages to those persons in other areas of their being. And on a spiritual level, the programmed glaucoma risk could be part of the lessons we are supposed to learn in this lifetime. Ayurveda says that our DNA holds memories of past lives and that no part of the DNA is "junk" or non-functional. Messing with our physiology on that level via genetic treatments for diseases like glaucoma is inviting serious potentially irreversible side effects that go much deeper than the side effects of pharmaceutical drugs.

    However, the expression of our genes is something we can influence with our lifestyle and our emotional state. Without artificially altering our genetic sequence via gene therapy, we can alter our gene expression through deep work on our consciousness. (Actually, even thoughts and emotions can alter how our genes are expressed.) That's the way to a glaucoma cure. Pills, potions, powders and procedures (including surgery) are merely helpful adjuncts (and they are not always helpful, so care is required in their use).

    Dr. Ritch said he defines a glaucoma cure when "it goes away and never comes back, like an unwanted house guest." I have to add that it cannot come back in another form or with another name either. A real cure requires that the unwanted house guest never sends back surrogates. Too often, a "cure" is actually only a suppression. What was once disease A goes away and comes back as disease B. The way to ensure that doesn't happen is to resolve the lifestyle, emotional and deep-seated consciousness factors that lead to the appearance of the disease in the first place.

    (NOTE: when I talk about consciousness, I am talking about the most fundamental level of our being. The way to get in touch with that level, to bring the "subconscious" into the consciousness, is through a traditional and formal medition practice.)

    I absolutely believe I can cure my glaucoma - but even if I don't, glaucoma is helping me become a better person at a fundamental level. In that sense, glaucoma is helping me fulfill my life's purpose and I am thankful for it. (I'm not so thankful that I want to keep it around however! For me, it's like an "interesting" visitor who was education for one visit but who will never get invited back because their visit wasn't all that pleasant.)

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  • 05-24-2007 5:17 PM In reply to

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    I'm not sure what I can add to this thread as it has all been said far more eloquently than I can write. I do so appreciate both of Gruffy's postings Big Smile

    I too have heart arrhythmia which I can't attribute to beginning because of glaucoma meds but they sure aggravate it.

    It was because of medication side effects that I looked into other ways of lowering my IOP and stopping any more damage to my eyes.

    The magazine What Doctors Don't Tell You was the first place I found an article about glaucoma and nutrition.  I went to the clinic [UK] mentioned for several days, came home and put into practice the suggestions.  While there my IOP's were monitored every 2-3 hours.  I simply had to use drops to keep my IOP below 25.

    A year later when I returned I could reduce my medication for several days before my IOP went up to 25 which confirmed to me that I was on the right track.

    Sadly the clinic is now closed as Dr Evans died and no-one was prepared to take it on.

    Thanks everyone for sharing and David for setting up this very informative group.

    J.E

     

     

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  • 05-28-2007 9:51 PM In reply to

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    It has been recommended that my dad has a total detox first so he can start with a clean slate.  We are fortunate to have a guy here that specialises in a pretty easy to take detox procedure...http://www.bushlore.co.nz

    then I will be taking him to a lady called Doreen Fisher in New Zealand that apparently has had a lot of success with glaucoma and eye complaints.

    Since he has stopped drinking tea, coffee and eating chocolate which he used to have on a regular basis, his eyes are looking whiter and they are not red, sore and watery like normal.  So even this in itself has been a great improvement for him.

     I will keep in you in touch on how he goes.

     All the best

    Diana Moore

    New Zealand

     

     

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  • 05-28-2007 10:15 PM In reply to

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    I have heard drinking 1/4 tsp bicabonated soda with make your body alkaline. 

    The herbalist doing the detox told me that it all stems from the state of your organs to start with.  If you try to heal the body without detoxing the whole system your organs can't function well enough to make use of all the vitamins and minerals, herbs etc you are going to give it. 

    I will pass all your knowledge on to my father and see how we can fit some of the things in with what he is doing anyway. 

    The Secret and What the Bleep do we Know are fantastic movies and have not only changed my own life but many friends and my family too.

    My message to my father is that you can either accept your fate that this is it for you and  your eyes will only get worse with blindness as the goal...or you can fight for you health and accept the fact there is a cure for everyone..its just a matter of finding the right one for you..and take control of your health and your future..I am so pleased he decided the later one.

     

    All the best

    Diana 

     

     

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  • 05-28-2007 10:23 PM In reply to

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    Just a quick note to say I have a page I have just started copying and pasting alot of info I am collecting on Glaucoma cures...it is not open to the public hense the messy state of it :) but its where I can go back to and from to put together a glaucoma strategy for my father.  I am more than happy for you to have a look at it.  (don't be surprised if you see some of the sentences from this forum on it)  I will be updating it on a regular basis as I find things.  Again..its for my use only..its not open to the public but  purely notes that I can access where ever I am...here is the link :

    http://www.ricandi.com/glaucoma.html

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  • 05-28-2007 11:45 PM In reply to

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    Diana - this is good news about the steps your dad is taking. He is lucky to have your support -- and it is great that he is being proactive, as you said.

    Ayurveda recommends a detox called pancha karma. I think you would find it interesting. I also plan to check out the link you pasted. Thanks for the info.

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  • 05-28-2007 11:48 PM In reply to

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    Thanks for sharing the link to your personal glaucoma notes page. I took a look at it and I saw a lot of good info there. My blog actually serves a similar purpose for me - when I find interesting info, I try to blog about it and that way I know where to find the info in the future. If you want to start a vision-related blog on FitEyes.com, let me know and I will help you get started.

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  • 05-31-2008 8:59 PM In reply to

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     Just an update on my father.

    He has stopped smoking and although his eyesight is getting worse, his eye pressure is back almost to normal.

    The latest thing we are trying is Turmeric.  It is an Indian Spice and has incredible anti oxident properties in it and is being researched at the moment at UCLA for Alzheimers.

    He takes 1 tsp with water 3 times per day.  He has noticed he is in not so much pain with his eyes.  I will update his progress when there is something to say.

    All the best

    Diana Moore

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  • 05-31-2008 9:33 PM In reply to

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    Hi Diana - thanks for the update. It is nice to hear your father stopped smoking.

    Turmeric is indeed a wonderful spice. Dr. Ritch calls the active ingredient in turmeric (curcumin) the "molecule of the year" in science. There is indeed some great research being conducted on it.

    I suggest that it is a good idea to also use turmeric the Ayurvedic way - in combination with other spices. You would heat some ghee (not over 325 degrees!) and stir in a mixture of turmeric and other spices. Be careful not to burn the turmeric. Cooking for one minute (maybe two or three at the most) is all it takes. This method will help the ingredients in the turmeric become more bio-available. This is especially true of the fat soluble portions of turmeric.

    Here is one spice mixture I use in my food. It is designed to reduce something Ayurveda calls "kapha" and this kapha is, according to Dr. Vasant Lad, often excessive in people with glaucoma. I recomment an Ayurvedic pulse diagnosis to help anyone with glaucoma find the right herbs and spices. However, the mixture below is something you can experiment with. I cook it in ghee as described above and add it to my foods.

    • 3 parts fennel
    • 6 parts corriander
    • 6 parts turmeric
    • 3 parts cumin
    • 1 part black pepper
    • 1 part ginger
    • 1 part cardamom
    • pinch of cinamon

    I have noticed that after my IOP decreases my vision temporarily becomes more blurry. Other people with tonometers have told me the same thing. I am guessing that the shape of the eye may change as IOP decreases. This would change the focus and it could make one's vision appear worse. In my experience the effect is temporary and my focus seems to adjust to the lower IOP after a while.

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  • 06-17-2008 9:41 PM In reply to

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     Gruffy,

    What are the measurements for the sodium ascorbate drops. My husband and I tried to convert the measurements but were unsuccessful we think. I was afraid to go with what we thought. I would love it if you could help in this department.

    Thanks,

    Dorothy

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  • 07-02-2008 6:15 PM In reply to

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    The latest studies implicate a little molecule by the name of tissue necrosis factor alpha as the final molecule that causes the death of the optic nerve cell in glaucoma. As pressure in the eye rises, the eye produces more tnf-alpha. The pressure is not the usual cause of the cell death in glaucoma, but pressure acts through a pathway which produces tnf-alpha, which in turn kills the nerve cells. This explains why some people have high pressures but never get glaucoma, and others have low, normal pressures but do have glaucoma damage. The difference is not the pressure, but the level of tnf-alpha that the eye makes. By the way, if tnf-alpha is more plentiful during the eye's development, the cornea should be thinner because of elevated cell death rates. The correlation between thin corneas and glaucoma is well known. Now tnf-alpha is a well known molecule. It is produced by the body to induce apoptosis (natural body-directed cell death for the purpose of keeping cells young and healthy). It is not, however, appropriate for tnf-alpha to kill nerve cells in the optic nerve because these are never replaced! It is well known that several natural substances moderate or reduce the amount of tnf-alpha that the body produces. Curcumin, an extract of the herbal spice tumeric, does exactly that. So does an extract from stinging nettles. There are several natural ingredients that also do this, and an article in "Alternative Medicine Review" two or three years ago listed many. These have never been tested in any kind of controlled study for glaucoma as far as I have found. The biochemistry says it should work as an alternative treatment to control glaucoma, but you are at your own risk when you try them. These will not reduce the pressure in the eye, but it should reduce or elliminate the damage normaly caused by high pressures. I have absolutely no faith in eastern medicine's variety of supposed cures. Sorry all you new-agers! But I do believe in biochemistry and in the natural things God made for us to use to stay healthy. And yes, I have a doctorate in this area.

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