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Latest post 08-14-2008 10:25 PM by Dave. 1 replies.
  • 08-14-2008 9:49 PM

    • Svenska
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    Test Results

     

    . Today was my follow-up appointment with my Orthomo to discuss the results of my Visual Field Test and Optic Nerve Imaging Photos that were taken last week. To back up a little it was early this summer at my regular eye exam with my Optomotrist that it was discovered that my eye pressure was high and needed to be evaluated by a doctor. The Optomotrist measured 29 IOP.

    Upon my visit to the DR about a month later, my IOP was 34, but after checking my optic nerve he stated that surprisingly it looked good. However, he wanted to do more testing which was the Visual Field and the Optic Nerve Imaging.

    Today, he took my IOP and it was 32 and 34. For the last several weeks I've done a lot of research on glaucoma and was prepared today as far as knowing what questions to ask. My cornea is neither thin nor thick, it's NORMAL thickness. I am a "strong POAG Suspect" as the doctor puts it. The visual field test came out well, except he said there was a spot in the right eye that he wasn't sure about. Could be nothing he said.

    Optic Imaging was fine as well. He could not say that I had Nerve Damage. He did mention something about the possibility of something called Pseudo Exfoliation PEX, but again he said it wasn't definitive.

    Based on my age (60) and because of the high pressures he recommended treatment -- just what I did not want to hear. I told him that I feel it's still early in the game and that I didn't feel comfortable starting eye drops to lower the pressure, with all it's side effects, etc, until it could be seen that I had optic nerve damage. See, I had read the OHTS Study and have been reading these postings on this board. YOU DO NOT HAVE GLAUCOMA UNLESS YOU HAVE OPTIC NERVE DAMAGE!

    He agreed reluctantly to having me return in 3 months without any treatment. I told him I want to try to see if I can reduce the pressure on my own, by exercising (walking). I sited a study saying that exercise for 30 minutes 4 x a week could reduce eye pressure by 20%. He said it wouldn't matter what I did, and that in his estimation the pressure would remain high, and even if it did go down to 20 he would still consider me a strong suspect and thinks I have glaucoma. Hmmmm.....

    Oh, I also mentioned laser treatments and he said he only does ALT. When I mentioned the newer SLT saying that it could be repeated, while the ALT could only be done twice, he said that the SLT was overrated and that the things I had read and heard were just to promote it as being a better laser treatment. Hmmmmm..

    Anyway, that's my story. Feel free anyone to jump in and tell me what you would have done.

    Oh, I thought this was great. He asked me, "How do you know all of this stuff?" I told him I have been doing research and read the OHTS Study online.

     

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  • 08-14-2008 10:25 PM In reply to

    • Dave
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    Re: Test Results

    Hi Svenska - thanks for posting your follow up information. It is great to see that you've been educating yourself.

    You are correct that the definition of glaucoma is now based more on optic nerve damage than on intraocular pressure alone. However, elevated intraocular pressure remains the #1 risk factor for glaucoma. Furthermore, your goal should be to prevent optic nerve damage from ever being allowed to start. I am told that once nerve cells start dying, this process triggers a cascade of nerve cell death that can be hard to stop. (Healthy optic nerve cells can be killed as innocent bystanders by the immune system's process of cleaning up the dead cells.) Even if you reduce IOP at that point, healthy nerve cells can keep dying. And allopathic medicine has no way to reverse the nerve damage either. So it is smart to be safe and reduce IOP before the optic nerve damage becomes detectable.

    You can always do the same alternative things you plan to do (such as exercise) even if you started glaucoma eye drops. Then, when your activities are successful, you can stop the glaucoma eye drops (probably in conjunction with discussions with your doctor).

    Most people using glaucoma eye drops do not have serious side effects. And for many of the side effects that could happen, there are alternative treatments that reduce those side effects. For example, see Use Coenzyme Q10 with Timolol Eye Drops for Glaucoma.

    The risk of side effects from the glaucoma eye drops is probably less than the risk of optic nerve cell death from waiting several months to begin treatment. Allowing optic nerve cells to die is a big deal. I would call this (optic nerve cell death) a serious side effect. I cannot imagine that you would have any side effect from glaucoma eye drops within a few months that would rival the loss of optic nerve cells. And if you are as successful as you hope to be with alternative treatments, then you will not need glaucoma eye drops for the rest of your life.

    In my own experience, it is indeed possible to reduce IOP with alternative treatments. However, the percentage of people that do this successfully is very small. I do not know of anyone that has done it without a tonometer. (If you are out there and you have had success reducing your IOP without self-tonometry, please comment here and tell us your story.) And every case I have seen of success with alternative treatments has taken time. I believe it takes time because real success in reducing IOP via non-allopathic means requires making fundamental changes at a deep level of our being. Exercise certainly does help, but exercise alone is not enough for someone with IOP around 30 mmHg.

    From what you reported above (and I thank you for providing so many details), I would guess that your doctor is right about your status as a strong glaucoma suspect. It sounds like he gave you good advice to start the eye drops. Regarding his comments on ALT vs. SLT, I cannot offer you any insights. Maybe someone else here can.

    Congratulations for doing your research. Reading the OHTS Study was a good move. Keep doing your research. Let me know if you find any research that disputes what I've said.

    Dave

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