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Latest post 09-07-2008 9:57 PM by Svenska. 9 replies.
  • 08-27-2008 6:30 AM

    interesting re internet ayurvedic medicines

     "Ayurvedic medicines sold via Internet may contain lead, mercury or
    >arsenic"
    >http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2008-08/jaaj-ams082108.php

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  • 08-27-2008 6:33 AM In reply to

    Re: interesting re internet ayurvedic medicines

     might be added info here

    >
    >"Researchers find high levels of toxic metals in herbal medicine
    >products sold online"
    >http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2008-08/bu-rfh082108.php

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  • 08-28-2008 9:16 PM In reply to

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    Re: interesting re internet ayurvedic medicines

    Nancy, thanks for posting the links. In my opinion, this is part of an ongoing controversy that extends back at least a decade. Traditionally, some Ayurvedic herbal compounds have included, as part of their active ingredients, metals such as mercury. Ayurveda claims to have special knowledge and methods of preparation so that these metals bring therapeutic benefits without side effects. Of course the FDA doesn't buy that, so the FDA banned those specific Ayurvedic formulas with heavy metals. They are probably still available in India, but those exact formulations are not imported into the US. The Ayurvedic formulas that specify added heavy metals are relatively few (even in India). That gives you some background.

    The reports you linked to are different, however. I read one of them and it sounds like the current issue is something common to almost every item in our food supply today: very low levels of heavy metals that result either from industrial pollution or, possibly, from naturally occuring levels. I suspect careful investigation would find similar levels of heavy metals in fresh fruits and vegetables as well as in non-Ayurvedic herbal formulas.

    Generally, the levels of heavy metals found in the Ayurvedic products tested were below the allowable limits set by the World Health Organization according to the report I read. (Only two of the approximately 200 products tested had any metal that exceeded WHO specified safe levels. See next comment for a link with more info.)

    I suspect they focused only on Ayurvedic products in this report because of the historical issues I described above. The researchers did seek out specific Ayurvedic products with added metals (such as mercury, lead, etc.), and that seems to confirm my opinion about why they focused only on Ayurvedic products.

    The most reputable Ayurvedic herbal companies use organic herbs and ISO certified manufacturing plants. Here are some of the certifications of one top Ayurvedic herbal company. At least two of these certifications go beyond GMP.

    ISO Certification

    The stringent ISO criteria used in evaluating these top quality Ayurvedic products are the same as those used to assess nuclear power plants. The plant reviews have targeted up to twenty quality categories including design control, production, storage, microbiological quality control, test equipment, standardization and calibration, product identification and handling, packaging, preservation, inspection and testing procedures.

    HACCP Certification

    HACCP (Hazard Analysis Critical Control Points) Certification requires a close focus on achieving step-by-step process quality at all "critical control points" of the production process, the objective being to produce and deliver products that are free of health hazards.

    GMP Certification

    GMP certification is further independent authentication for achieving effective, safe and reliable products batch after batch. The GMP (Good Manufacturing Practices) certification is issued after an independent panel of experts has done in-depth and intensive investigation to ratify that the company has established manufacturing systems and practices that ensure "fault-free, safe and consistent-quality" products.

     

    Remember that many allopathic medicines are thought to contain toxic ingredients too. There is a controversy raging now over potentially toxic metals in vaccines, for example. If you really want a scare, check out the side effects of BAK, the common preservative used in glaucoma eye drops.

    And many vitamin supplements have impurities. After all, "USP purity" only requires 98% purity. (That two percent impurity could be potentially devastating.) I remain concerned about the binders and fillers in many tablets, as well as with the gelatin capsules.

    I recommend very minimal use of supplements. Super foods are a better bet in my opinion. Take a look at this blog post on supplements and super foods, for example.

    I would prefer not to use glaucoma medications with BAK, but sometimes I have to. I would prefer not to use any medicine (other than food and consciousness), but sometimes I have to use various things. We all do at times. I guess all we can do is be aware of all the unwanted ingredients in those medicines and try to make the best choices.

     

    Traditional Ayurvedic herbal formulas with a balanced set of ingredients are still among my first choices when I need medicines of any type. I have found these products to offer one of the safest approaches to healing. However, I'll continue to keep an eye on these reports and I will make sure I purchase my Ayurvedic products only from the most reputable companies that have clear statements about heavy metal content.

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  • 08-28-2008 9:42 PM In reply to

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    Re: interesting re internet ayurvedic medicines

    This is a link to USA Today's article on this subject. USA Today is one of the few that reported anything beyond the canned press release.

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2008-08-26-ayurvedic-medicines_N.htm

    "McGuffin notes that it may be impossible to ensure that herbal products are 100% lead-free, because even fruits, vegetables and dairy products can be contaminated with lead, which can be found in soil or water.

    "McGuffin notes that government and professional agencies set widely different safety standards for lead, mercury and arsenic. While most of the products in Saper's article have lead levels that exceed California's standard, only two violate the World Health Organization's standard."

    Continuing, here is one Interesting link to a book related to this discussion:

    http://books.google.com/books?id=FGGXJ184ElsC&pg=PA98&lpg=PA98&dq=Ayurvedic+medicines+sold+via+Internet+may+contain+lead,+mercury+or+arsenic&source=web&ots=fB-YxeJlLx&sig=sGp8G9c1oT71olSXJ86FamE88qI&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=75&ct=result

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  • 08-30-2008 1:05 AM In reply to

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    Re: interesting re internet ayurvedic medicines

    I just read (completely by accident) something related to this discussion on lead and heavy metals in nutritional supplements:

    FDA Survey Data on Lead in Women's and Children's Vitamins

    http://www.thedailygreen.com/environmental-news/latest/lead-vitamins-082803

    Please go to the link above to read the article and comments.

    The Food and Drug Administration has wrapped up testing of vitamins for women and babies, and found that almost all contain trace amounts of lead.

     

    The FDA vitamin research covered 324 multivitamin-mineral products available over the Internet. The FDA failed to detect lead in only four.

    Given the prior discussion about lead in Ayurvedic herbs and now lead in women's and children's vitamins, we might tend to blame the supplement manufacturers. I think it might be wiser to consider the problem of environmental pollution in general. Quoting McGuffin again, "even fruits, vegetables and dairy products can be contaminated with lead, which can be found in soil or water."

    complete list

    Greatest Exposure, Ages 0-6

    1. Nature's Plus Animal Parade Shake (Powder)
    2. Superior Multi Age (Powder)
    3. Nutraceutical Pedia Power (Tablet/Capsule)
    4. Physio Kids Multilogics Chewable (Tablet/Capsule)
    5. Ola Loa Kids (Powder)
    6. Nature's Plus Animal Parade (Tablet/Capsule)
    7. Vita-Big-Kids (Tablet/Capsule)
    8. Wonder Laboratories Formula Nineteen (Tablet/Capsule)
    9. Clinicians Choice Chewable Daily Multivitamins (Tablet/Capsule)
    10. Dynamic Health Multi for Children (Liquid)

    Greatest Exposure, Pregnant and Lactating Women

    1. After Baby Boost 1 (Tablet/Capsule)
    2. A to Z Naturals Wow! PreNatal (Tablet/Capsule)
    3. Vitamin Source Prenatal Complete (Tablet/Capsule)
    4. Prenatal Superior (Tablet/Capsule)
    5. Rainbow Light Complete Prenatal System (Tablet/Capsule)
    6. Buried Treasure Prenatal Plus DHA Complete (Liquid)
    7. DaVinci Laboratories Ultimate Prenatal (Tablet/Capsule)
    8. Life Time Professional Pre-Natal Formula (Tablet/Capsule)
    9. Daily Foods Baby & Me (Tablet/Capsule)
    10. Carol Bond Women's Choice Prenatal (Tablet/Capsule)

    Greatest Exposure, Adult Women

    1. NutriBiotic Ultimate Matrix (Tablet/Capsule)
    2. Super Nutrition Women's Blend (Tablet/Capsule)
    3. Esteem Total Woman (Tablet/Capsule)
    4. Garden of Life Living Multi Optimal (Tablet/Capsule)
    5. GenSpec VF-1 for African American Females (Tablet/Capsule)
    6. For Women Only (Tablet/Capsule)
    7. Garden of Life Living Multi (Tablet/Capsule)
    8. DaVinci Laboratories Spectra Woman (Tablet/Capsule)
    9. Women's Superior (Tablet/Capsule)
    10. GenSpec VF-3 para Mujeres Hispanas (Tablet/Capsule)

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  • 09-04-2008 12:47 PM In reply to

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    Re: interesting re internet ayurvedic medicines

     Dave, I was looking at your list of Superfoods that were posted April 23,2007.  These superfoods listed were derived from powders or oils. How many of these do you actually take, and what is the brand name or actual supplement that you use?

    I also was wondering if you "juice" at all and if so, what juicer did you recommend.

     

     

     

     

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  • 09-04-2008 12:53 PM In reply to

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    Re: interesting re internet ayurvedic medicines

    Hi Svenska - I will reply in more detail later. However, at this moment, my real super foods are the vegetables, oils and spices I use in cooking, such as in this recipe: http://fiteyes.com/blogs/fiteyes/2008/08/17/is-this-the-healthiest-pizza-you-have-seen

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  • 09-04-2008 5:50 PM In reply to

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    Re: interesting re internet ayurvedic medicines

     Dave,

    I'm wondering if we can trust the FDA to have done the research honestly and correctly.  It's well known that the FDA and Big Pharma are in co-hoots.  No money to be made for them if people gravitate to the vitamins and herbs, because they cannot be patented. They say that disease, and I assume they think of glaucoma as a disease, can ONLY be cured or treated with drugs.  They want to debunk everything used other than drugs, so I'm wondering if their research is flawed.  They will do anything and everything to keep people sick and on drugs -- all in the name of MONEY.

    I do think however, that food is our best medicine. 

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • 09-05-2008 9:41 PM In reply to

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    Re: interesting re internet ayurvedic medicines

    Svenska:
    Dave, I was looking at your list of Superfoods that were posted April 23,2007.  These superfoods listed were derived from powders or oils. How many of these do you actually take, and what is the brand name or actual supplement that you use?

     

    I also was wondering if you "juice" at all and if so, what juicer did you recommend.

    Hi Svenska - you are referring to the list of food supplements that were posted April 23,2007 in my article on carotenoids and krill oil.

    I definitely use Neptune Krill Oil as a supplement. I use either Jarrow or NOW Foods brands (for example, Now Foods, Neptune Krill Oil, 500 mg, 60 Softgels).

    And there are some other supplments that are a must for anyone with glaucoma such as

    • DHA (I use Source Naturals, DHA Neuromins, 200 mg, 120 Softgels),
    • ginkgo (I use Now Foods, Ginkgo Biloba, Double Strength Potency, 120 mg, 200 Vcaps), 
    • CoQ10 if you use timolol (I use Healthy Origins, CoQ10 Gels, 300 mg, 60 Softgels),
    • cod liver oil (I use Carlson, Norwegian Cod Liver Oil, Regular Flavor, 16.8 fl oz)
    • possibly methly B-12 (I sometimes use Jarrow Formulas, Methyl B-12, 5000 mcg, 60 Lozenges)
    • and a few others that don't come to mind right this minute...

    Since I posted that list, I have improved my diet. I now eat fresh organic broccoli, cabbage, carrots, ghee, beets, spinach, kale and more almost every day. I also eat organic pumpkin seed butter, and I put cod liver oil on my rye toast. I also consume organic olive oil, flax seed oil, coconut oil, honey, and a large number of healing spices (such as turmeric, ginger, etc.). So that doesn't leave much need for many of the superfood supplements on that list at this time. I still think they are fine supplements, and I would choose them rather than the nutriceuticals and other vitamin supplements making headlines these days.

    From that list, I also have some kelp powder and spirulina powder. But I find myself giving those to my dog because I don't want to ruin the taste of my delicious food. :)

    BTW, be sure to check out these posts:

    http://fiteyes.com/blogs/fiteyes/2008/07/02/best-foods-for-your-eyes

    http://fiteyes.com/blogs/fiteyes/2007/02/27/Best-Foods-for-Fit-Eyes-and-Great-Vision

    I also keep a bottle of Banyan Botanicals Organic Greens on hand for those days when I can't eat my usual super foods.

    I do not juice. I believe I need (and benefit from) the fiber and other phytonutrients that are in the parts that are thrown away when juicing. I would be more inclined to do the 3 HP blending that miconizes the food particles rather than juicing... but I still believe cooking the Ayurvedic way is superior to any other food preparation method I have seen. So I don't do the 3 HP blending other than on a rare occasion.

    If you want a blender, you could order from my friends at qigong.com. They sell the BlendTech 3 HP blender and a very good recipe books. Their blender recipes are great! Definitely superior to juicing for most of us. (I recognize juicing still has a place in certain disease treatment protocols.)

    (BTW, the regular Vita-Mix is not adequate for this type of blending. It will not micronize the foods.)

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  • 09-07-2008 9:57 PM In reply to

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    Re: interesting re internet ayurvedic medicines

     Wow!  I definitely learned something. I never knew there was such a blender as to actually micronize the whole food.  That would certainly be more beneficial as it would contain the whole food and all of it's parts.  Never heard or read of anyone using one until now.

     

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