The Consciousness and Water

All:

I am, like Dave, totally invested in "quantum consciousness." I had my
introduction to the subject quite "coincidentally" through my association with one of
the pioneers of the subject. He left me many thoughts that didn't jell for 50 years.

As Dave pursues an amazing path of discovery about eye pressure, I am looking at an
amazing study done in Japan about the effects of our minds on water. I wouldn't be
surprised if some of you, if not all, are familiar with this incredible research

All of us have either been with someone who asked a blessing on their meal, or do that
ourselves. I am stunned at the outcome of this simple proceedure, and firmly believe
what occurs will do so with or without the knowledge of the participants. Our minds
can have an amazing effect on our food...and, in this thread, our water

Take a look at these sites, all of which refer to the same research, then I'll chat
some more (one site has an e-mail to which one might want to subscribe):
Water has a very important message for us.
Messages from Water

Shifting frequencies of Water
The Dream

As you can see, there are quite a few wonderful thoughts assembled on these sites about
the consciousness and water. I'd guess there are now a profound number of similar sites.

I have had the changing of water demonstrated to my family right here in my own house
several years ago when a specialist in the use of tuning forks came and worked on my wife's
body to deal with some health issues. I could definitely taste the difference between my
tap water before and after he had "meditated" on it. I was just not ready for the full
impact of that demonstration. I also have a large square bottle in my kitchen with about
a pint of water in it that was "blessed" by the Dali Lama. That bottle has taken on a whole
new meaning to me. Not because it was the Dali Lama, but because this man KNOWS about the
process and is intimate with it.

So, I am going to toss out a thought here that I just had. You've seen the effects of
peace of mind, music, consciousness in general, on water. Let me ask you questions, and
you can meditate on them:

• Your eyes have vitreous humor in them...what is its composition?
• Your blood flows through your body...what is its composition?
• You are composed of 55-60% water...what ARE you thinking??



• And at Cana he turned the water into wine

• And Peter walked on the water....
• And...folks....Chris Angel apparently walks on water

Illusion?

Gruffy

• And...folks....Chris Angel apparently walks on water

Illusion?

Gruffy

It's not even hard to figure out how Criss Angel does that one. Some of his other tricks, yeah, I wonder how he did them, but this one is easy.
 

I guess I shouldn't have inserted that morsel where I did. I've heard from
several folk who seem to have missed the entire point because of their suspicions
about "magic" and other "illusions." That's too bad, but I still hope the seed has
been planted in some people's minds. See, I think Simon Ben Jonas DID walk on
water...I think things got confused. "Your faith has healed you" became exclusively
"I healed you"..The point was what "your faith" could do, not "what I can do for
you, (and how much it is going to cost you)."

I know it was 50 years after my working for Dr. James T. Culbertson that his science
of quantum physics, our memories, &c, suddenly jelled in my mind. Seeds work that way.

So, let me through some more fuel into the fire. First, though let me rehearse
my points: 1) Water can be mentally manipulated; 2) Atoms can be mentally manipulated;
3) We were informed of that not only by someone 2 millenia ago, but by other folks
who have properly used quantum physics to their benefit. So, why not concentrate our
thoughts on improving our vision and general health by improving our thoughts.

Carrying on with the 2 millenia old remarks:

a) Baptism with water symbolizes "spirit"
b) Laying on of hands consecrates or changes something
c) Touching with a sword consecrates or changes something
d) Commands the wind and the waters and they obey him
e) Ask and you'll receive "living water?"
f) People moved rock http://www.roadsideamerica.com/attract/FLHOMcoral.html
   and rock http://www.sacredsites.com/americas/peru/machu_picchu.html
g) Your faith [not mine] has made you whole
h) So called "Faith healings"...
i) Occidental, Oriental, and Aboriginal societies give thanks for....
j) Your turn....

I hesitate to say these things, because almost instantly some folks start the
blame game ('must be sumpin wrong with me 'cause I ain't gettin' better')
('must be sumpin wrong wit you 'cause you ain't gettin' better')
Then someone says "aha, I can make money with this....you pay me some money
and I'll tell you what yer sins are..." As soon as any kind of price, or cost,
or blame is put on it, the water dries up (look that one up some time).

So as Dave has so succinctly pointed out, we need to work on our thinking.
How do we do that? I happened into Martial Arts 40 years ago. That wasn't the
answer, but it was another seed. Now, being "ancient of days," I do the "Tai Qi"
and Qi Gong I learnt at the feet of a master of Shaolin principles. I have
studied "The Secret" and discovered some caveats therein [if you are really
interested in what caveats I have discovered, drop me a personal, private
e-mail and I will gladly respond and chat with you - it just depends upon
how far down the black hole you are interested in poking about]. I have just bought
the whole "What the Bleep" Series, and have begun studying. I have bought a book
about quantum consciousness by Nick Herbert. I wouldn't necessarily recommend him to
you, but I've found that if I don't keep my mind on this, I forget, and slip back
into the "stories" (Landmark Technology) from the past that try to fuel my thinking.

I've studied Jeanette Maw's great essays, and found that I tend to attract those
things with which I am overly concerned. I've learnt about "the middle man." I'm
trying to find the "middle man" in my thinking. Example: "I'd love to be rich."
Ok - why? "Because I'd have a great time traveling." OK. You aren't really looking
for being rich, you are looking for having the great time traveling. So, make THAT
your intent. Skip the "rich" part, because it is the middle man and you really aren't
seeking that.

OK - let me throw a big stone into your water. Why do you want your eyesight? Well
it is because I'd be so happy having it for all the things I could do. Then, your
goal is to be happy. Where will that take you?

OK - 'nuff fer now.

el Gruffo

All - you'll apparently have to cut and paste those two links I provided.
They don't seem to work by clicking on them but they do when they are
cut and pasted. Sorry about that

ffurgy_|_gruffy 

If our bodies are made up of 60% water, it definitely makes sense. Otherwise we cold be made up of polluted water like many rivers and lakes have become. The water kills the fish and even some people. If we can monitor or effect purity in the way our bdies use water maybe Global Warming is  next to change. Great work

Recently I was beginning to expand on the concept of altering our DNA by not only what we eat, but what we think. I was pleased to find I find that I'm not the only one who has chased that one down the Rabbit Hole. So instead of writing my thoughts I think I'll recommend a good source of information...I hope it stays a while. Some of these referrals tend to get taken down about the time one cobbles them into a general essay like this. I will probably save this guy's essay away somewhere, and use it citation wise if it ever gets taken down.

Meanwhile...

So what's my point? My point is that we are not only able to affect our "water," but our DNA. If we can affect our DNA, why, then, must we continue to lose our sight to Glaucoma?

Here is the site I found that seems to have a lot of what I was thinking: http://www.naturalnews.com/024133.html

Again I'm wondering just how far this thing can go. I've been practicing EFT now, and had immense success with it. Now I find that EFT can be done in a "surrogate" fashion. I'm not even going to go there in this discussion. I'm just going to assert that in my own case, where a healing actually took place in my body, there was a change of something.

As to the power of the human consciousness, I would like to invite you to read the essay I wrote about the healing of our son that took place many years ago. Anecdotal, yes, but...admitted by the Medical folks...YES. The question is, and only YOU can answer it for yourself: Was there a change in his DNA? Another question only YOU can answer is "Do I BELIEVE that the consciousnesses of others can have an effect on me, and vice versa?? If you are interested, just go to Quantum Consciousness and click on the little boy's picture depicting a force coming into his chokra from the universe...

That is a pretty tough question to answer, because, firstly, there isn't ANY proof, sir or madam, that  you even HAVE a consciousness. You cannot prove it to another person. I can't prove to you that I have consciousness. When I say proof, I'm talking about a Newtonian method of measure. That would be "Turing Test" type proof. I mention another type of proof I am considering...sympathetic proof...but I'll not go there right now because it can't be measured either. I think the healing was proof!!

So why am I writing this? Because the possibility is there that we can heal ourselves. The possibility is there that we can recover our vision. Of COURSE there is that caveat: it might not be "time." I recently coined a new scripture regarding "that caveat." It goes like this: "If there are answers, there can't be questions." Some get very cynical and call it "there is no such thing as a free lunch." Balderdash. There are many "free lunches." My next breath is a "free lunch." The beautiful music I'm listening to on YouTube, meditation music, is a free lunch. It just happens that we can't have our every wish...not this time. So, since it is between you and you, why can't you change your eyes by changing your DNA by changing your eating and thinking?

I remember how MUCH the hippies wanted change. They talked about the "Age of Aquarius." I'm seeing more and more change now  even though some, many, have given up on "The Age of Aquarius." True, some of it is the collapse of finance. So what? Some of it is us. Some of it is "Indigo Children." Some of it is the recrudescence of the human spirit longed for by Douglass MacArthur. I think the latter is growing mightily. Too bad there isn't a constellation called "Recrudescence."

PS - Andrea..we can affect purity. Global Warming, though "isn't." There is no such thing. There may be solar warming of the globe, but there is no "global warming." I invite you to my page: Global Warming is Neither

Gruffy:

Here is the site I found that seems to have a lot of what I was thinking: http://www.naturalnews.com/024133.html

I have to take a moment and warn people that even respected writers such as Mike Adams, who is the founder and who writes many of the articles at Natural News, can get things very wrong sometimes. I have seen it happen often enough at Natural News that I stopped reading that site. Here is the example that ended my readership. Mike Adams said,

"I've tasted a lot of really potent medicine in my life experience. I've swallowed thousands of glasses of Chinese medicine, raw rainforest medicine, Ayurvedic medicine, Western herbs and other medicines. I've chewed on bark, swallowed gummy pastes, and chugged extremely bitter concoctions. I can tell you this: Zrii does not taste like medicine to me. It tastes like grape juice.

"Real Ayurvedic medicine tastes bitter. So does real Chinese medicine, real rainforest medicine and real herbal medicine. Zrii does not taste bitter to me. It tastes primarily like grape juice to my tongue. Perhaps your experience is different, but in my experience, Zrii does not taste like real medicine."

Ayurvedic medicine is built upon a few key concepts. One is that consciousness structures the human body, which is the point of the article Gruffy linked. Another is that food contains six tastes and these tastes are in fact the "nutrients" we should seek to balance when aiming for a balanced diet. And this is the key concept that Mike Adams has missed.

Our western concepts of macronutrients and micronutrients and food groups are replaced by the six tastes: sweet, sour, salty, bitter astringent and pungent (spicy, hot).Each meal should contain a balance of all six tastes for optimum health and nutrition.

The Ayurvedic principle of the six tastes is also a key in Ayurvedic herbal formulation as well.

In the quote by Mike Adams above, the bolding is in his original. How embarrassing to bold your own mistake! (Now that I have pointed this out, I hope I don't repeat the same mistake many times in the future!) On the other hand, all of us can make mistakes and let our egos overwhelm our better judgment. With Gruffy's reminder that Natural News sometimes contains good info, I think I'll give it a try again.

If you want to learn more about the six tastes in Ayurveda, and how the bitter taste is just one of those six tastes used in Ayurvedic medicines, see this link: http://www.kitchendoctor.com/Ayurveda/taste-elements.html.

In particular, this quote explains the sweet taste:

The sweet taste consists predominantly of the water element and secondarily earth. It is found in carbohydrates (starches), sugars, fats, and amino acids and is, to no one's surprise, anabolic, i.e. building. In other words, it helps to build body tissue. It is therefore absolutely necessary in the diet of emaciated people such as extreme air type individuals. The sweet taste acts quickly on the taste buds and saliva. Its nature is heavy, cold, and viscous (oily and gelatinous). In excess, it is clogging. In moderation, this taste, associated as it is with water and earth, is stabilizing, tonifying, and calming. It is therefore "medicinal" for air and fire types who are irritable. It may even help promote fertility and longevity for such persons. However, where there is overweight, mucus congestion, coldness, or chills, excessive consumptions of sweet foods is contraindicated. It is important to realize that anything watery is anti-fire so where the fire element is already low, sweets will cause considerable short- and long-term harm.

UPDATE: I just discovered that Mike Adams wrote a follow up to the Ayurveda-focused article I quoted above. I read it and it felt like an incredibly arrogant defense of his original article and it contained no admission of his mistakes. He continued to hammer on the same points without any attempt to try to understand how Ayurveda would be working in the case of the product he reviewed.

Mike Adams wrote a critical product review on a subject he didn't fully understand, bolded his own mistakes and failed to admit them, and then wrote a follow up claiming that his original article was really great. So I am sorry, but Natural News is going to remain on my list of sites to avoid.

And please, if or when I do something as arrogant as this, let me know right away.